Finesse News Network: an update on lures

In our August 28 blog about the Finesse News Network, we included a a list of lures that the finesse anglers around Kansas City use throughout the year.

Since then, we have discovered that YUM has gotten out of the business of making and selling bass lures for finesse anglers.

Therefore, we will use Gene Larew Lures’ 3-inch Baby Hoodaddy in situations when we used to opt for YUM’s  Wooly Beavertail, and we will trim about half of an inch off the head of the Hoodaddy.

Strike King Lure Company’s 4-inch Finesse Worm and Z-Man Fishing Products’ 4-inch Finesse WormZ will replace YUM’s 4-inch Houdini Worm.

We haven’t found a replacement for YUM’s 4-inch Muy Grub, but we are looking at Northland Fishing Tackle’s 4-inch Slurpies Swim’N Grub, Bass Pro Shops 4-inch XPS Single Tail Grub, Zoom Bait Company’s  4-inch Salty Fat Albert,  Gene Larew Lures’ 4-inch Chub Grub and Berkley’s 4-inch Power Grub.

Berkley and Larew’s grubs are too big, and they overwhelm our jigs; therefore we have to customize them by shortening their bodies by three-quarters of an inch, and sometimes that works.

Kalin’s 4-inch Lunker Grub and Gary Yamamoto Custom Baits’ 4-inch Single Tail Grub are alluring grubs, but because our aim is catch 101 bass in four hours, we have found that they are too fragile for us to use. We are looking for a grub that can endure the abuse  that 15 or more feisty bass normally administer to a grub. The YUM 4-inch Muy Grub could at times withstand 25 donnybrooks with largemouth  bass.

Until we find a replacement for Muy Grub, we will also use Larew’s 3 1/2-inch Long John Minnow in grub situations more than we have in the past. The Long John Minnow has a paddle tail rather than a twister tail.  Thus, it isn’t a traditional grub, and it will take us a while to see if it is an adequate substitute.

We might also test some grubs made for the saltwater trade. They are durable, but their colors rarely appeal to the eyes of the freshwater bass anglers around Kansas City.

At the flatland reservoirs that  lie immediately west of Kansas City, the best grub fishing is normally a late summer and fall phenomenon.  Thus, we are in the midst of it.  We affix our grubs  to either a 1/16-ounce or 3/32-ounce Gopher Tackle Manufacturing Companies Mushroom Jig Heads.  We use them the way power anglers use lipless crankbaits by executing long casts and retrieves across, around and along shallow flats, humps, points and shorelines.

Readers who have ideas about an adequate replacement for the YUM 4-inch Muy Grub, please post them at the end of this blog

     Here’s one of 42  largemouth bass that we caught by working a grub in two to five feet of water on a flat that was graced with patches of coontail and filamentous algae at small reservoir west of  Kansas City on October 22. Photo by Pok-Chi Lau of Lawrence, Kansas.

 

 

Below is the original blog:

For the past several years a group of anglers participated on an e-mail circuit that is call the Finesse News Network. Geographically this network stretches from Phoenix, Arizona, to Siler City, North Carolina, and from El Paso, Texas, to the Lake of the Woods. Some say the heart of this group lies on the waterways that surround Kansas City, where the late Chuck Woods created the foundations for finesse fishing for largemouth bass in the 1950s and 1960s.

When curious anglers, such as Wayne Steele of  Brentwood, Tennessee,  get wind of our devotion to finesse fishing, we are frequently asked to provide a list of the lures that we use day-in and day-out during the entire calendar year. Thus we though that some readers that peruse this blog would be interested in  seeing a list that the finesse anglers around Kansas City have been employing during the past several years.

Gene Larew Lures’ 3-inch Baby Hoodaddy and 3 1/2-inch Long John Minnow; Strike King Lure Company’s Bitsy Tube, 4-inch Finesse Worm and  2 1/2-inch Zero; YUM’s 4-inch Houdini Worm, 4-inch Muy Grub and 2- and 3-inch Wooly Beavertail; and Z-Man Fishing Products’ 4-inch Finesse ShadZ, 4-inch Finesse WormZ, 3-inch Rain MinnowZ, and  2 1/2-inch ZinkerZ.  About 97 percent of the time we use these soft-plastic lures affixed to a 1/32-ounce, 1/16-ounce or 3/32-ounce Gopher Mushroom Jig Head.  At other times we also use either a 1/32-ounce or 1/16-ounce homemade silver marabou jig with a chrome head and silver-tinseled belly, and there are spells when we opt for a black one, brown one and olive one. In December of 2010 at ther behest of Stacey King of Reeds Springs, Missouri, we began working again with one our old-time favorites: an 1/8-ounce hair jig dressed with a Uncle Josh 101 Spinning Frog.

Related posts:

  1. Finesse News Network
  2. The relics of the forefathers of bass fishing to modern-day finesse
  3. The Virtues of the Kinky Worm and Other Cock-eyed Finesse Presentations
  4. ZinkerZ and Zero
  5. Small Jigs and Hooks Lie at the Heart of Our Finesse Tactics

17 Responses

  1. Nathan Parker

    Ned, I realized about a year ago that I was no longer finding the MUY grub on shelves. As I use it quite a lot more than you guys do (basically all season long from March-Nov), I immediately began looking for a replacement. I have found 2 that are very close to it in both construction and effectiveness, though both are marginally more expensive than the MUY grub was. The first, which you briefly mentioned, is the XPS single tail. It is a great grub, and due to its availability, I use it quite a bit. The other that I like that you didn't mention is the Chompers 4" single tail grub. Both are very near replicas of the MUY grub, itself a tougher replica of the Yamamoto grub (I believe).

    Another bait I have begun using quite a bit, and that I believe to be a bit more finesse-ful (to use Doug Stange's word), is a 4" berkley power worm (sometimes cut down 1/3 to 1/2"). I fish it primarily on a 1/16 oz. Mushroom head with a #4 or #2 hook, and I swim it exactly like I would the grub. It sometimes inveigles bites for me when the grub does not, which I credit to its subtler vibration and slimmer profile. Perhaps you can incorporate this bait into your fishing.

    • nkehde

      Nathan:
      Thanks for your insights and note about the Chompers 4" grub.
      We will keep you and others on the Finesse News Network posted
      about we find.
      Several finesse anglers are working with 4" TriggerX and 4" Case Grubs, but initially they look
      a little too large for the way we fish a grub.
      Keep in touch,
      Ned

  2. Bryan Hayes

    Mr. Kehde – I'm from Olathe and would like to join your FNN group (if possible), how does a person sign up for this? Also, is this blog from the same lake that S. King filmed a show last year? Your location looks familiar…ha!

    Thanks!

    • nkehde

      Bryan:
      Thanks for your note.
      We will be pleased to add you to the Finesse News Network, please send us your e-mail address or call 218-829-1648 and ask for my e-mail address or phone number. Once we get your address we will get you on the network.
      Looking for forward to corresponding with you about finesse fishing tactics.
      Med

  3. nkehde

    To the chagrin of Brent Frazee of Parkville, Missouri, and outdoor editor of the Kansas City Star, Northland Fishing Tackle is no longer selling their Slurpies Swim'n Grubs. Frazee expressed his frustration in an e-mail: "I get so tired of lure manufacturers taking good baits out of production." The devotees of YUM's 4-inch Muy Grub aired the same sentiments upon learning that the Muy Grub isn't being produced.

  4. Nate Meidl

    I might try the Damiki Hydra. Its a grub/tube hybrid and is very effective when fished in a finesse style.

    • Ned Kehde

      Nate:
      Thanks for your comments. We will give the Damiki Hydra a try. Please keep in touch, Ned

  5. Greg

    I went to Gopher Tackle Company and noticed how they wanted to charge almost $7 for shipping on the mushroom head jigs. No way I was paying that! Where can i get the Gopher Mushroom head jigs for cheaper or without inflated shipping?

  6. Ned Kehde

    Greg:
    I am sorry to report that I don't know where you can find a mail-order dealer who handles Gopher's Mushroom Jig Heads.
    Perhaps some readers of this blog can help you locate another source for Gopher's great 1/16-ounce Mushroom jig. For our finesse fishing tactics, Gopher's 1/16-ounce Mushroom Jig Head has no peers.
    Ned

  7. richard mccall

    Hi My Name is Richard McCall -I have A great Idea for a jig and it works like crazy I have a name for it but would like to talk to somebody about it first —would like to get it patened but afraid some body will copy it before i can get it into circlelation thanx for your time My # 623 -876-2653

    • Ned Kehde

      Richard:
      Thanks for the post. I will give you call.
      Ned

  8. Jim

    Mann's Hard Nose Grubs!! These baits are well shaped, have supple action, and can withstand many fish caught and released. The 4" size is what I use to put a slaying on every fish that swims, including largemouth. I can use one, maybe two baits all day long and have done this many times while winter fishing at Lacygne. The jigheads I use with these baits have to withstand the occasional wiper, and I've found that Gamakatzu have the strongest, sharpest hooks.

    Give it a shot Ned.

    P.S. – Great stuff; I really enjoy reading your articles.

    • Ned Kehde

      Jim:
      Thanks for your insights.
      Please keep in touch,
      Ned

  9. Randy S. Breth

    Isn't there an ElaZtech grub, or "GrubZ". Or is is it too big in the 5" size and too small in the 2.5" size. I haven't seen one so I don't know.

    • Ned Kehde

      Randy:
      Z-Man has a four-inch StreakZ Curly TailZ and a five-inch and 2 1/2-inch GrubZ.
      But we have used only the pearl 2 1/2-inch and five-inch GrubZ for about 30 minutes in December of 2011, and the five-incher, which we trimmed an inch off the head, caught three largemouth bass.
      Our grub bite in the flatland reservoirs in northeastern Kansas has been lackluster for more than a year, which has prohibited us from working with Z-Man's grubs.
      Therefore, we will have to rely on finesse anglers from other parts of the country to do a comprehensive test of the effectiveness of Z-Man's grubs on bass.
      Please keep in touch and don't hesitate to tell us what you think.
      Ned

  10. Sorry I forgot to check back – but I will try some of them out when I have a chance.
    Randy.

  11. Daniel Fisher

    I like the XPS four inch grub. It appears soft though and I find that it tends to slip down the jigs collar after fishing it for awhile. A drop of super glue would probably fix that, though. Other than that, is seems to have great, fish appealing action.
    Good fishing,
    Dan